I think all dobermans are very beautiful and after I learned they come in so many colors I became very interested in the melanistic black. Please spay or neuter your pets. I do have a serious issue with destroying White Doberman pups at birth. They also may be more aggressive and therefore, give the breed a bad reputation. The germs cannot ever develop an immunity as they can with antibiotics because of the way it works. Especially when they may need more medical care. It cuts their guts apart when the hydrate! In Sep 2018 we adopted Katie. Just one opinion. Amen to that my wallet is clapping in agreement! Excellent post for a youngster, see my reply to the post below to see why you are right. You obviously are quite the Bible Scholar, huh? Both of the latter are in Floridalots of luck in your search. There is currently a female Doberman about 4-5 years old looking for a home near Erie PA The correct weight for a male is approx 80-90 lbs. 23+ Doberman Haversham Dog Hi animal lovers, I see you are looking for 23+ Doberman Haversham Dog. just curious. At the time of her registration it was found that there was in fact 7 other AKC registered white dobes. My black & rust male Doberman is wonderful. People who breed Albino dobermans only care about the money and not the breed, they sell them for more money saying they are rare. Regardless of anything else it is a well documented FACT that these white Dobermans are predestined for medical and/or mental issues at a shockingly high percentage compared to all other colors. The albinos are very hard to take care of i wish people would quit breeding them. Its because of people like you who feel its not worth it to neuter them, therefor they keep reproducing . I would never say put the white dobermans down, they ARE dogs, but to purposely keep trying to breed white dobies and keep the color going is completely irresponsible. They tried the Bulldogge (the original, not the chunky lil chap with respiratory problems that people are ga-ga over today); Too vicious: tore the poachers to shreds before they could hang them as an example. I am an animal activist, but I still think its okay to cut their ears as long as it is done correctly and under anesthesia with great care taken to keep the dog out of pain and tending to the healing correctly. Youre a puppy mill just like breeders that breed for merle in Chihuahuas. It takes two copies of the gene to be an albino. Thanks. I am trying my childhood breed of German Shepards now and find myself comparing them. Although I have never personally owned a White Dobie, I have had the distinct honor of knowing four of them, very, very well. I have one too (rescue). I read your stories about your three Dobermans. Having been familiar with SDS or sudden death syndrome, and as a researcher I have been excited to have figured out a potential solution to SDS. I would break in half and give him twice a week in a cracker with peanut butter. We post dogs in the usa and canada. I have known many White Dober-girls/boys, through Brigette. With my present Doberman Ive never fed this leading brand. You need to remember all dogs came from the wolf and though breeding such as line breeding and inbreeding we have a wide variety of dogs some good some not so good but they all deserve our love and care no matter what. More >>, Privacy Policy | Terms of Service | Contact. I have a fawn doverman she turned three months yesterday her name is clare. All due to old age band sickness. To say all albinos today come from her blood line is false. I love that they require not coat clipping. I have several dobermans I have all colors including white she is a beautiful happy healthy 2 and a half year old she has no health problems. In the next 15 to 20 years, folks will be bucked off of their high-horses, and the Z designation will be dropped in the AKC registration, and people will be free to love these animals as they should and not revile. remember please dont be a moron and breed these dogs ever ! No its norepriducing Its a pet. and vet bill are just that vet bill make a payment arrangment or start paying the vet before yu get the dobie and have a credit before the health issues arrise or pet health insurance. My Westie wanted to be second in command and over stepped her place so now I cant let the Shepherd and Westie together. plus i have always wanted a bigger dog that i could run around and play with in the back yard. That will cause many health issues. I bet half of you owners with healthy white Dobies havent seen been to a vet more than three times with that dog. I believe that Albinos should not be bred but i am not an advocate of euthanizing them. Thank you for all your great comments. To the person who spreads semi thought out racist comments you are comparing white Dobermans to insecure white people concluding with white people are unhealthy because of their skin being pale.Specifically that white people suffer from osteoporosis because they cannot go in the sun. Truly man & women best friend. Your right about euthanasia. He loves the nieghborhood kids and all of the visitors that come into the house but he is always on guard when strangers come around. However, when we look at the longevity of, say, albino rabbits, guinea pigs, pigeons and budgies, we can realistically say that being white in itself is not fatal to a species. Its been years but Id love to have one again. They have a small amount of pigment, which makes the coat cream and the eyes blue. Yeaaaah. Okay , all of a sudden white/partial albino have popped up and Oh My God it must be a new line of dobs? Responsible is the key word here. But, when it does happen.when a bitch produces 7 healthy, beautiful babies, of which one just happens to be White, that pup should not be killed. Then of course laying a good foundation of basic obedience is essential, thats fine if someone else teaches the basics but when the pup comes home to you it needs to feel confidence and trust that youre the alpha leader now. Listed as white only because albino is not a color. I have raised Black and Tan, Red and Tan, Blue and Cream and Tan. Id kept him used to kids by taking him back to my friends I got him from. My question is how long ago did you have your dobes skin cancer removed, Im just looking for some possitive info as I cant afford the suggested treatment and we are just going to ride it out as long as we can and hoping for the best. You people are a bunch of hypocrites. No one has had all the albinos dna tracked to see. These dogs are amazing for their heightened senes they can pick up on your needs as well as anything around you. I dont know how many ppl have asked if Im breeding my dogs, I want to look at them like are you crazy? I was not aware of the health problems white dobermans have and if i had I may not have gotten him. I remain devastated to this day. I would say its do-able with certain preparation. most shelter animals make wonderful pets. just because they are white does not mean you should not get them, albino does not mean they are bad. Humans as a species have not been around, in any influential way for very long. She has had 2 small lumps removed over the years. So me and my husband adopted a 10 month old Doberman from San Antonio Doberman Rescue and advocacy. After evaluating Katie, her owners and the circumstances of the biting, we did not hesitate adopting her. I dont think so. She had light brown pigment to her hair, Light pigment to her skin and blue eyes. Curious about the White Doberman you mention. Hello. There is a problem with the white dobe. God bless. It does that to almost everybody. Always liked working dogs because they are bread to do jobs not looks I could go on to list the breeds that have been ruined but any dog lover knows what they are Thanks for reading about my memories of well loved four legged friends! And by the way dogs are not people. He was afraid of her and almost pulled my shoulder out trying to get away from her. Scared. Hate to tell you though, they are just that FACTS. A Doberman that is white is not special in a good way. I am concerned that our rather flawed, poorly evidence-based opinions may rob us of the pleasure of some lovely animals. Although, inbreeding would explain your human shortcomings. An intelligent breed, Havanese puppies are highly trainable and enjoy learning new tricks. In 2018 Bella past away in my arms at age 8 of a heart attack. We are in our 60s. ..is that good for your grammar, Hahahahaha lol that last question is hilarious . Hope everythings going well now. BTW, two large studies on cardio (one in the US and one in Europe) have shown that 60 per cent of dobes suffer from the disorder. She even feeds her dogs food she makes herself, it looks yummy! For those who say albinos have red eyes, are very misinformed. Hes now 10 years old, and has fatty cysts all over him. Best yet is a responsible owner that does not spay or neuter and keeps their pet from unwanted breeding. I so miss her, no pup will ever replace her in my heart. Great skin and coat, awesome temperment, etc As with any dog, problems are caused by poor breeding. They are not genetic Mutations that should be culled at birth. Hi George, I believe this is a huge factor. I wasnt training him, he was trying to train me! Cleo.guarded the children from day one and would stop my wife from crossing any road diagonally it was 90 degrees or Cleo would lean on the pram or pushchair so my wife had to follow Cleos wishes! Are you still looking for a rescue? The breeding is the culprit of the problems a white may have. Should I be concerned? Potassium is the link between the brain and all the organs not just in dogs but in people as well. Thanks! This article forgot to mention that not long ago, the fawn and blue Doberman pups were culled (Killed) at birth. Against all wisdom we have a puppy at hand. The good news is we have an article and some pictures about what you're looking for. People adopt children from other countries and still love them the same. Spontaneous albino mutations can potentially occur in any mammal (i.e. Little did I know at the time the classification of WZ would come to haunt my wallet and health of our new pup. I am certainly responsible with dogs and have a lot of experience around them, I was raised with them. Somewher down the line, someone decided to select for certain traits, and breed for said traits. i think that we should do what is best for the breed . where is the sense of having love? Hello Im getting an all black Doberman in about a week and I keep reading all these negative things about them. The doberman pinscher (commonly referred to simply as the doberman or dobie) is a highly versatile dog. LOL We have plenty of Dogs and its always time for someones check up or booster shots. Because it has poor vision, the dog may be unsure of its surroundings. Pricy, but it was worth our peace of mind. It is seen as inhumane to the dog due to the potential for serious health concerns. this makes sence, but i also have to work for a living. So my question is this- If I send my puppy to a very nice behavioral/ obedience/ training school, how well will my Doberman re-integrate into the household? I knew he would naturally. I know that means he will have some of the albino gene in him but is this going to cause any health issues? And? He has no signs of cancer. Look at american rotts and ero rotts same for german shepards. I attained a blue Dobie at 1 year of age from a rescue and shes in great health and has no skin issues and is very muscular, agile and athletic as other Dobermans and also very protective of her family including other household pets. In reguards to health issues, all purebred dogs have more health issues than mixed breed dogs, generally each BREED has its own list of common health problems associated with THAT BREED. You can use it externally on wounds or internally as well. I dont want to see an outstanding breed tarnished by this uneducated, irresponsible behavior. The two who currently share my life are the most recent of the 11 Doberman Pinschers that have graced my world from my past. But can we work on the live forever thing, its a problem for me. A red (also called sorrel or chestnt) horse becomes pale gold (also called palomino or isobella). The MESOSILVER brand is the only one I can recommend because it is the only one Ive ever used. There was a white Doberman at the humane society in my town the last time I went. The Albino doberman is NOT a WHITE doberman. Doberman Pinschers have a higher energy level than other dog breeds. I didnt buy a white Dobe but I did just adopt one when our local shelter had to be evacuated and she needed somewhere to go for a few days and I just couldnt bring her back. Cleo would walk at my heal everywhere without a lead but put even just a short lead on her and she pulled slightly as if it was a slight in someway ? (about halfway sarcastic) Now Im starting to sound like some of you guys. Does that NOT send a red flag right there? both allels are white you get a white puppy (25% chance). The whites are AKC. The temperament for these dogs are great. Pure breeding REQUIRES inbreeding. As far as loving them as a dog, absolutely. Still, breeding is needed for that so the idiot you replied to is, in fact, an idiot. Oversize in both the US and in Europe. How about do some more research , I am from Kenya and I have a black with brown colour dobberman its healthy and good.but am asking if I do feed it at night is recommended for guard dogs secondly should I shorten the tail or leave it with its tailthankyou. All of which are not albinoid. thank you. THE WHITES NEVER HAD ANY ISSUES WITH BAD SKIN OR EYESIGHT OR HEARING! I Had a red and Blond, I Loved this dog and Was the Smartest Dog I have ever had, I will Probably buy another registered Red and Blond , or I Might try a Black and tan this time either way this Dog will have a fantastic Life, Traveling and Being Spoiled!!! This whole thread disgusts/disappoints me. Too much hate and misinformation going on here. I also have 3 reds and 1 black, all healthy. Porsche had an echocardiogram and her heart murmur was determined to be less than minor. only bred to look americanized for the show.. And nothing like what they wer origanly bred for. I have a white female Doberman and she is the best dog in the world she is good with my kids and has no health problems at all shes fun and loving and gets along with any dog she even loves the cat next door and her best friend is a one year old pit named Chico I love all Dobermans they are the best dogs and loyal to there most inner core. There will of course be some adjustment as the dog learns whats expected in its new house. We are so relieved. Knee jerks reactions, using religion as justification (cmon get real), using only your particular dog as an example for all, and many other ridiculous defences, only hurts the DOGS in the long-term. Average $1200 - $2500 USD. We just adopted a Red Doberman coming up on her 5th birthday. Religious bashing is rude. Maybe you should be the one doing more research. My red Dober-boy, Steele, gets a sunburn on and just above his nostrils the fist day outside in the Spring. do i believe a doberman with an expected life span of 10 years that is prone to hypothyroidism, heart murmur, bloat and god knows what else and that has had ears and tail-chopped off is better up than a white doberman? God bless, poor babys been through a lot. She is my baby! or a sheppherd dog or a wiener? At age 13, which is several years older than so many who die of SDS, he is looking quite good and still out running about a mile a day! Youre a FUCKING BOZO!!!! Neutered and spayed dogs had 4.3 times higher incidence of lymphoma (lymphosarcoma), regardless of age at time of neutering. White tigers are very beautiful creatures as are white lions and both occur and survive naturalistically in nature. Bashing someones religion. You clearly havent dealt with many white Dobies, especially in the veterinary world. The puppies are black and brown except for a blue one and a red/rust ones. You claim to have rescued some dogs from the shelter, let me ask something, didnt it break your heart to see that overcrowding there? So sad I was really looking forward to puppies , You are unselfish. I could not bear to watch my buddy hurt. The writer does not anything about white doberman. Group csn be found on Facebook. Some people are better at this than others and some dogs (regardless of breed) are easier to train than others. Take your pup home and love it. Which means they are not within the AKC breed standard. I had a red king dobie for several years, I took him to the local petsmart for trading classes. White Tigers are not albinos, and therefore do not suffer the genetic weaknesses common to albinos. Although, that book does contradict itself in so many ways I digress. If your were truly responsible with your pets this would not even be necessary. When you purchase puppies the price is based on quality of desired traits. I had two doberman a blue and a fawn they both loved to play with tennis balls. She loves to swim in our pool,the lake,ocean, whatever.Black and Tan have always been what most people think aboutbut, reds,fawns,blues etchave made there way into common breedingwhy not whites? Theyre all so different its really hard to say its all or nothing on these sweet animals. Blue eyes is actually a lack of pigment in the iris. Have some bad news for people that are upset about white dobies being the result of inbreeding. Blue lived a very long life..Very healthy dog..Im not sure exactly, what the name of the lotion was. Her first visit to the vet we were told she has allergies, she had a double ear infection and two types of worms. Over the years we have had three Doberman girls. Love them for the world. Not only has he got sensitive skin, he has stomach problems as well. Dont worry, there isnt any problem with this. It doesnt get much better than that!!! The tails should have been docked by the breeder. Just remember buyer beware. Would like to tell you my story. But most of them will. Both my Black/rust girl, Phoenix and Steele get a fleece lined coat in the Winter. https://www.sfspca.org/adoptions/pet-details/41201970. if you get one and have it dna tested it may or may not be from Shebahs bloodline. Their mothers are forced to have what they dont want then toss then aside because none of the do gooders want them so they get fostered. Whe I read your post I thought it was a match made in heaven then I read on You clearly mistook the information in the article that they are sick animals and shouldnt be bred. your inbred dog still has unethical genetics. Our Doberman was the Black/Tan type. So for example, the sunlight affecting them is a fact, it is much more than causing them to squint or blink a lot. Marge I have a male isabella named Apollo and a femal black and tan named annie we are expecting puppies any day now!! If they are healthy, they are an attractive byproducts of the current standard. we all know that dobes are very intelligent. I will say that a lot of white ones end up out there for rescue or adoption. I totally agree with Dober mom. Today, they are sought after, registered and shown (successfully). Did AKC refuse to register something you have? Love your dog no matter what his/ her color is. Hope this helps with your decision making. i did some research and the original dam did have a white and the male pup (yes male) was breed with sis litter mates to keep getting the white color. Its easier to do research than you think. The male dog is very intelligent, very loving and affectionate, and riddled with unfixable health problems. Smh . last but not least Dobermans have one flaw THEY DONT LIVE FOREVER. (If the shoe fits). And breed twards the dogs origanal purpose and utilize those skills and abilities and make your dog the best it can be with a job and a life purpose that fufills its dna its urgess to do something.. Just adopted a red/Rust 20 month old male and would like another Dobbie. Look at what we did to the. The blue Doberman is a dilute of black. Theres a very sweet 2 y.o. I pray the universe keeps you from committing such a selfish act. Rumors have encircled the White Dobies for years. Whatever color your Doberman is, remember they have short hair and are sensitive to cold temperatures. Their temperments were all wonderful and they were glorious blessings. Also though they do not use Wiemaraners for PPD dogs typically. think of it as thanksgiving dinner if you will. Do you know the health issues and aggression that can come without spaying or neutering? Lets use our brains to think about original, non-judgemental thoughts! But let us think about this line breeding. Little kids that dont know him jst run right up to him and want to pet him. Usually, the average cost of purchasing a pet quality puppy from a reputable breeder is about $1,200 to $2,500. Marvel Heroes. It disgusts me deeply. And if they actually do their research the White Doberman has been around from the beginning. At age 10 Emma had a severe stroke. Blue was a Beautiful dog. Get off your high horse hippe! I have never been owned by a White, but Ive been blessed to know several, very, very well. I have been a little crazy since as he is like yours, just as friendly and loving as can be and a little velcro. If you come across a White Dobie, dont hesitate to give him/her a forever home. You have no idea what your talking about regarding White Dobermans. MONEY. They interbred the two and then bred the offspring (for several generations, I might add) and out popped what is in my opinion the finest canine ever produced. They were gorgeous animals will massive abilities and they have been evolved into the short, squat English bulldogs we know today only because of the breeding. My uncle had a albino doberman for 15 years and was the best dog ever. But if you breed them, you can get 3 sorts of puppy because the puppy get one allel from each parents: 1.) The thing about our Dobbi is we made the cardinal mistake of letting him think he was human, which made him a handful. . The winner as expected was the black & tan color with 62% of the votes, with the reds in second place with 24%. While they do typically have high intelligence, friendly disposition, and minimal health issues, the opposite is also fairly common. Your comment is awaiting moderation. We have done all the testing that any breeder should do. 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