I will say that the Utica stop spacing is fine; its not any wider than the Queens Boulevard local and it stops at every intersecting street with a frequent bus connection. Flatbush Av-Brooklyn College is 2338 yards away, 28 min walk. but towards one side for easy attachment to a ground level station house. This leaves the possibility of resurrecting the Worth St Line, a branch off the 8th Ave local that would split south of Canal St and head east via Worth St and East Broadway. By the early 1920s, its population had swelled to more than 10,000. Same dilemma as if underground. It stands to reason, then, that the massive South 4th Subway with branches to Utica Ave and along Myrtle Ave was designed to replace the Broadway and Myrtle Ave Els as well. I-beams and could be outfitted as faades on older structures as they And why tear down the whole Broadway EL? It looks to be about two miles long. Look at the ceiling from the open platform, and at the mezzanine area at the north end. The only elevated line that the IND ever built was the Culver Viaduct between Carroll St and 4th Ave-9th Sts and this was done in a similar way. Williamsburg in comparison to a Bypass is a much lower priority, since the L is not operating anywhere near signalling capacity; upgrading the power supply gives you a bump from 21TPH to 26TPH, nearly a 25% increase in service, and building tail tracks and appropriate terminals also increases that number. In your next post, could you talk about a potential Fordham-Ozone Park line served by the 2nd Ave Subway? When would you see it converted to that? Building it to B Division clearances is good but making it B Div from the get-go would be better still. The upper platform serves southbound trains, with local tracks to the west and express tracks to the east, and the lower platform serves northbound trains with a similar configuration. Even today Utica makes too much sense. and has a much less dominating effect. An article today about from Second Avenue Sagas about the 7 line extension station at Hudson Yards, awaiting passengers as the rest of the mega development is completed, reminded us of these.. Same with Crown Heights-Utica Av. The current switch layout requires that local trains merge directly in front of express trains causing delays and capacity constrains. Split track areas. The second is a simple addition of new switches which is what Im going with. [12], There are four stair entrances, all on Fulton Street:[13]. Six other lines would have to be widened for it to stay as the 4. The only relief valve I can see short of the billion+ solution is reverse-branching lower Utica so that some its runs can continue up Nostrand. Double-deck single tracks. [24] It consists of ceramic tiles of the sun and moon on the platform walls. This is the level of transit that buses provide for a fraction of the cost. station. Thats right, build subways to validate els. This would suggest that even if the full line was to be built most riders would be transferring to trunk lines headed to downtown rather staying on to midtown via Williamsburg. Utica Avenue Subway Station. 2- rebuild the Eastern Pkwy Station so that there are provisions for the line to pass through. When you were envisioning your Montague Tunnel connection did you explore a Hanson Place route as an alternative? Another elevator from the south mall leads to fare control.[23]. The point of Utica Ave is that riders are trying to get downtown so who would ever ride the 4 all the way out just to switch to the A when they could have just gotten on the A at the first place. Anyone bemoaning the fact that President St. and Nostrand Ave arent connected? Like on the Jamaica el. Unlike at Eastern Parkway there were no track connections ever designed and the station itself sits in the middle of the intersection. Contract 2 extended the original line from City Hall in Manhattan to Atlantic Avenue in Brooklyn. It wont really be providing new services, since youre just substituting services that already exist. Are you saying that IRT cant handle the demand? Its more of a nice-to-have thing, but all that needs to be fixed is Myrtle Interlocking and the curve at Cypress Hills, which are 1000x more cheaper. because Im so taken with the main idea of applying a new technique to With IRT you are constrained slightly but smoothing out the Rogers Junction gives you more to work with and if Utica proves more popular than New Lots then you could run some special 4 trains down there at rush hour. But Utica predates 2nd Ave by at least a decade. Go for a Subway, local station, ADA accessible (ONLY northbound 6) 59 St. E 60 St and Lexington Ave, E 59 St and Lexington Ave, E 60 St and 3rd Ave. Four side platforms. Despite its name, this station has no exit to the corner of Utica Avenue and Eastern Parkway. And that nine has the corresponding capacity of 12 A Division runs. Thanks for listening Vanshnooken! In the station, there are ornate doors in the tile walls which serve as vent chambers. I would totally be open to the idea of just using Nassau and keeping the B/D on the Manhattan Bridge. MTA Subway - Crown Heights/Utica Ave (3/4) 1117 Eastern Pkwy. While cost is an obvious reason for building an elevated over a subway there are also geological concerns in this area as the land through which Utica Ave runs has a very high water table and very sandy soil. Lest I bring on comparisons to Robert Moses I would like to point out that on the western side of Utica Ave, from the Bay Ridge Line to Flatbush Ave, there are exactly 9 residential buildings. The closest stations to Utica Avenue are: Utica Av/Beverly Rd is 115 yards away, 2 min walk. Close by to where youd have your subway portal at Kings Highway is the Bay Ridge branch. The one on the west (railroad north) is staffed weekdays only and accessed via a wide staircase in place of the end wall of the New Lots Avenue-bound platform. The Flushing Line viaduct cleans up real nice There were blocked stairways up from the platform level to the upper level that were removed during the station's renovation. why did you completely destroy the jamaica line, cant we just make a 3/4 line extension? Keep in mind that they wouldnt remove the existing switches so that trains from Brooklyn College could still reverse at Franklin and access New Lots or Utica. The line's section to Atlantic Avenue was part of Contract 2 of the Interborough Rapid Transit Company (IRT)'s plan to construct an extension of the original subway, Contract 1. No doubt they will propose some deep bore subway with expensive stations that will take a decade or more to build. On a side note, the Rogers Street Junction needs to be rebuilt regardless of any extensions. 6. The Utica Avenue station is an express station on the IND Fulton Street Line of the New York City Subway. station count on BWY7 and 8AV between 110th and 72nd. It was first constructed as the Eighth Avenue Line in Manhattan in 1932.. One of three rail networks that became part of the . Especially for a line such as the 5 that lacks walking distance stations in comparison to the Nostrand Avenue line. When the IRT built the Eastern Parkway Line between 1915 and 1918 they built into it a provision for a future branch down Utica Ave (the IRT, in fact, built its entire Brooklyn section with many provisions for future expansion that either never happened or ended up being built by a competing company). This is why I say do IRT now and level provisions for the future. While those numbers are nothing to scoff at, especially as they have seen over 10% increases in ridership over the last decade, the E train at Jamaica-Parsons sees ridership of over 12 million annually. These technological limitations were shortly overcome and the only IRT line that doesnt use part of this original line is the 7 which is limited by the Steinway Tunnel. [2] The Reid Avenue El station, which was originally named Utica Avenue and was formerly above the current subway station, closed on May 31, 1940.[5]. The station has four tracks and two island platforms, typical for a four-track express station. The point is that anything involving using an extension of B Division is more complicated, for no reason, than just extending the IRT. When looking at your plans for Utica Avenue, you seem to only put emphasize on what the area is like now and not in the future. [7] The outer track walls are made of tile and have a maroon trim line with a dark maroon border. The station listings are extremely far apart to where it barely serves any local communities on the route. Building a subway in these conditions means having to deal with tunnel flooding more so than normal and flooding means corrosion. Furthermore, the neighborhoods in northern Brooklyn through which the first part of the line would run are already served by existing subways. In fact Id discount any curve adjacent to a station by about 50%. The 2 track Worth St Line would require a 3.15 mile tunnel from Tribeca to Williamsburg. I highly disagree with connecting SAS to Nassau. Kind of surprising the Fulton line was left out of it. In fact I am writing this today because I want to get ahead of whatever the official plan might state; I have very little faith in MTA planners and I feel that anything they release will be overly designed in a way so that its D.O.A. The incident happened inside the Utica Avenue subway station in Brooklyn on Christmas Eve. Phoenix has one of its very own, and it's haunting in the most beautiful way possible. Remember any from of transit is only used when planning for the future such as the L train renovations and Clark tunnel reconstruction. 1135 Eastern Parkway. Even the New Lots branch doesnt have a third track and you could argue it needs one more than this. The gritty, graffiti-ridden New York City subway system is quite a character in Joker. street-side condemnation would be for the head-houses. Between Fulton St and Eastern Parkway the crest of the ridge which runs along Long Island rises 52 feet. Even before revenue service or full tunnels were dug the six-track station was a relic of another era. Oh yeah. will be as interesting and more reasonable than those from the genius Theyll meet up down the road. The first option is a bit luxurious and is unlikely to happen. Is it correct that Culver has connections in place for the 8th Ave line? This station has two fare control areas, one at either end. Although not in the official report, soon after it was proposed to connect 14th St to Utica Ave. As someone wiser than I recently put it: Ultimately a project with a higher up front price tag will be an invaluable investment that will pay dividends far into the future.. Eastern Parkway & Utica Avenue. Hey, that was me. I would love to see a post about a light rail system , Not very sure about the constraints of light rail (besides politicians lol) The important thing about the shorter option is that installing these switches could be done overnight or over a weekend and wouldnt require long term, disruptive construction. Youve recognized its unused capacity and proposed filling it by connection to Jamaica Ave.; a Utica Ave. branch could work as well.. But thats not necessarily for the bad. You could replace Lafayette Ave with a new station that joins the fray and then shares track with the R. All tunnels built after the original subway were built to B Division standards. For future expansion of the system we need to be open to thinking outside the box. Just a quick suggestion yes, the IRT version of the Utica Line would be most practical, but wouldnt it also be somewhat more effective to build it to IND standards? The IRT built their Utica Ave station west of Utica Ave with turnouts in the track walls so that a branch could split. Climbing the steps to the intermediate level, there are locked doors that serve as access to the unfinished platforms. While there are arguments to be made for extending the Nostrand Ave Line south I would argue that with the addition of Utica Ave that demand would be reduced as riders coming from the east or southeast would take Utica over a bus to Nostrand. B, the curve wont be as sharp when the train curves down Flatbush to Kings Plaza. The station spacing was done to keep costs down. The station's other fare control area has two staircases going down to each platform, a crossover, part-time turnstile bank and customer assistance booth, high entry/exit turnstiles that provide full-time access to and from the station, and two staircases going up to either side of Fulton Street between Stuyvesant and Schenectady Avenues. The developers wrote that they raised all the station platforms so that a 1.5% grade would help the trains accelerate. Theres only four local stations and it could probably crawl through three of them in a skip-stop with the C. You were playing around with skip-stop on Nostrand; maybe itd make sense here. B46 Utica and Eastern Parkway. I have two comments. Despite this residents of southern and southeastern Brooklyn would continually oppose any plan that involved elevated trains (even extensions of the Nostrand Ave Line as an elevated were blocked). Another weekend or overnight wont kill us! Im not suggesting building an extension of the Crosstown Subway or tearing down the Broadway El, that is merely a reproduction of the 1931 IND plan. [21], This underground station serves local and express trains in a two-level layout with two island platforms. Barring a brand new line paralleling the EPL and Fulton, which wouldnt make sense as long as capacity can still be raised on those lines, the Fulton Street line looks like the only way to ever realize that greater capacity. Make no little plans, Daniel Burnham is purported to have said, they have no magic to stir mens blood. Say we got together and bought the local NBA franchise. The 8th Ave Subway was designed to replace the 9th Ave El, the 6th Ave and 2nd Ave Subways to replace elevateds running above their avenues. And theres no room there for it. Now, if this was built, the 2/3/4/5 will be able to run to either branchline from either direction. Other sources indicate that the unused level at Fulton St.s Utica station is not quite perpendicular but slanted 20 degrees or so in the favorable direction. 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But the big question for me is what are you going to do about the 5 not running on late nights and weekends? Abandoned 9th Avenue Subway Station. Located under Eastern Parkway near Utica Avenue in Crown Heights, Brooklyn, it is served by the 4 train at all times and the 3 train at all times except late nights. I would have to strongly object to abandoning Phase IV; that still leaves the entire SAS and Sixth Av LES stations without a direct connection to downtown (and thus fails the objective of relieving the Lex), leaves Water St underserved despite heavy employment density, and subjects SAS to the whims of the DeKalb interlocking. 7 of NYC's Abandoned Subway Stations: City Hall, 18th St, Worth Street, Myrtle Ave, 91st St 9 of NYC's Abandoned and Incomplete Subway Platforms and Levels 5 of NYC's Never Completed or. Building an elevated line designed to integrate into the built landscape rather than dominate it, while not new, is novel and one that will need time for the public to come round to. Some of the old trolley poles are still there! [30] In 2015, New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio announced his proposal for an extension of the 3 and 4 trains down Utica Avenue. And I much prefer to have 2nd Ave take over the B/D trains on the Manhattan Bridge so that they can be rerouted to Williamsburg instead. Mayor Bill de Blasio has asked the Metropolitan Transportation Authority to examine bringing No. It's a dense, transit dependent corridor with a recently opened and popular Select Bus Service line and the Utica Ave stations on the 3/4 and A/C have some of the highest ridership on their respective lines. Excellent nonetheless. Finnaly, the IRT Utica Av doesnt have the provisions for having a IND Utica Av, so either one of two plans will have to happen: 1- Build a Eastern Pkwy Station under the 3/4 and have a steep incline back up to Empire Blvd so it can be able to portal out wherever (originally I thought it was going to portal out at Empire Blvd but I guess im wrong). Bubble the reworking there to the top of the list and once done it can do 12 B Div. The problem here is between these two streets one lane will have to be teared up and bus stops will have to be relocated and detoured, which messes up a lot of commuters daily travel. [3] There is actually going to be a place to connect that will be much easier; the Second Avenue Subways current iteration is supposed to have lower level storage tracks from 21st to 9th Sts. Again, Worth isnt the best choice, but there are no good choices with an IND style Utica Ave. Not bad. Better to have SAS Williamsburg via the 9th St storage tracks and SAS Fulton local as the obvious trunk line that needs new capacity. Alon Levy did a back-of-the-napkin estimate of how much a mostly elevated line would cost and found it a better cost per rider than even 2nd Ave. For future expansion of the system we need to be open to thinking outside the box. 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Let's take a trip down memory lane to explain why. Youre less likely to be the goat. Or just stay on your train. Meaning if the Livonia Yards are overcrowded and a train-related incident happens at Franklin;blocking off service to Manhattan, trains can run between New Lots and Flatbush and/or Kings Plaza and Flatbush. [17] On August 23, 1920, the Eastern Parkway Line was extended from Atlantic Avenue to Crown HeightsUtica Avenue, with the Utica Avenue station opening at this time. I was talking with someone at the MTA and they mentioned that the planners were playing with the idea of building the relay along side the Bay Ridge because there was more space/cheaper than extending a tunnel south. The application was approved, and the IRT extension opened on May 1, 1908. So while not impossible it is more complicated and it is dependent on an additional service running down Fulton. You can take a bus from Newark Penn Station to Utica Avenue Station via Port Authority Bus Terminal, 9th Ave/42nd St, Atlantic Av/4 Av, Dean St/4 Av, and Dean St/Utica Av in around 1h 52m. The Crown Heights-Utica Avenue station is an express station on the IRT Eastern Parkway Line of the New York City Subway. Construction commenced on Contract 2 on March 4, 1903. There is a very good argument to be made that building the Worth St-Williamsburg section would alleviate traffic on the L train and serve a growing jobs center around Hudson Sq in lower Manhattan. SAS-Grand Central future awkward? and weekends the 5 doesnt go to Brooklyn. Touring: F train to East Broadway. Kings Plaza isnt downtown Flushing so you arent going to have that demand. A hybrid of 1 and 6: The el is still over roadway Now we reach Utica Ave. Passangers want a train for the East and West Sides.By switching the 3 and 5 youre forcing passangers to make a crossover at Franklin when they could easily just have a one seat ride from Utica or Flatbush Av. The 5 is already going express and with further station spacing you would still have good run times. Maybe that money would deliver more bang for the buck if applied here. I just noticed not just the rough formatting and typos but Id accidentally truncated my handle to H. And I though drafting it offline would reduce mistakes! south of 63rd V from Bypass to Utica via Williamsburg, 15 TPH each. Doesnt matter. What do you figure the cost of the subway portion of the line to be? still hanging up there and apparently needing the dead space over ENY Secondly is that the IND plan, like most of their plans, was wildly over designed and would require extra miles of subway from Eastern Parkway to the Lower East Side as well as a much wider 4 track trunk line instead of the IRTs proposed 2/3 track line (much like the New Lots branch the line would have been built with 2 tracks and space for a third to be added later). Well, thats essentially what IRT rolling stock is; its 3/4 of full size. Also (while a 4 track yard is good for Relay past Brooklyn College.) IRT Utica would run express by default and be a much quicker commute (not to mention better transfer options at Atlantic Ave.) As you stated CBTC will boost frequency a bit more but those are all other projects that need to be done first. The new trains would be served by trains from Seventh Avenue. 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