From your article clearly shows you dont even understand the basic concepts of Judaism nor what those schools taught. Christian Pharisees were not unknown, even if we cannot know for sure if the wishful thinking of the traditions is true about Gamaliel and Nicodemus. Er was the first person God killed for being wicked ( Gen 38:7 ). For I have the desire to do what is good, but I cannot carry it out. In 2019 he published a commentary. Is Paul a Christian Pharisee who believes in Jesus? Either way, by Acts logic every Christian should reject false doctrines but if a new teacher appears and preaches about God the One God, and is called a Prophet, if his mission is as wildly successful, sans the forced conversions Christianity depended on, IS FORBIDDEN at that, obviously Christians are the new Pharisees for rejecting and slandering Prophet Mohammed (saw) and adhering to oral traditions of their forefathers. In 2019 he published a commentary. Here are answers to 2 common objections: .a) What about the so-called Golden Rule? The Orthodox Muslim view of the Koran as self-evidently the Word of God, perfect and inimitable in message, language, style, and form, is strikingly similar to the fundamentalist Christian notion of the Bibles inerrancy and verbal inspiration that is still common in many places today. The Twelve Apostles were absolutely NOT sent out right away after being appointed Apostles, according to Mark chapters 3 through 6, and Luke chapters 6 through 9. Although he was born in Tarsus in Cilicia, Paul spent a considerable amount of time in Jerusalem under the tutelage of Gamaliel in the strict manner of the law of the Jews (Acts 22:3). Polhil states that perhaps around the age of fourteen to sixteen Paul went to Jerusalem to study under Gamaliel (Acts 22:3), (30). As for burying Stephen, even if Gamaliel was not a Christian he would have been motivated to care for the dead, as demonstrated in Tobit. Quick question (not one of my posts), was Paul around/among those that put Jesus to death?? There once was a phony named Paul who lied about God he had gall. I find it interesting to look at this perspective that you pointed out, PLong: He was an ultra-conservative reacting to what he perceived as a dangerous liberal view. Everyone seems to give Saul a bad rap (and rightly so) for his actions towards believers before his conversion, however, this at least gives us a context to understand him better. If you continue to post long rambling and inaccurate responses I will ban you from the site. I did not see this question before, sorry. That is the basic idea of the heavy-duty seminary language we were being trained in. You do not know what my background or what ive read. Yet Jesus is the object of worship, turned into a false god believed to be confirmed in a book that actually refutes it! How about you? Acts 22:3. Provocative. My question is who is the artist who did the painting pictured here, possibly of Gamaliel? | Reading Acts, Can You Be a Pastor without going to Seminary? Paul claims to have been educated by Gamaliel, one of the premier teachers of the Law in the first century. I wrote a short note on Pauls relationship with Gamaliel two years ago and it has been one of the more popular posts on Reading Acts. ). and as long as the food was not sacrificed to idols and was kosher you could eat with gentiles. So we know that he is a Pharisee, is part of the Sanhedrin, and taught the man who would eventually pen the majority of the New Testament. Was Judas present when Jesus spoke those words? So Law, Prophets, scripture is what it is divided into. This is something Peter practiced and had a struggle with regarding gentiles because hes from the school of Shammi. Supposition and/or conjecture certainly can allow for a yes that he was probably there because a Pharisee would most likely have gone to Jerusalem for the Pasch, Passover. He was the son of Simeon ben Hillel and grandson of the great Jewish teacher Hillel the Elder. Human teachers and influences, for some at least, did not matter. (Soon, in the Logos Library!) Law. Peter was from the school of Shammi and Shaul was clearly from Hillel and we see this when these two Pharisee argue with each other on various topics. So 7:12 cannot stand alone as One Commandment. Every Book of it, every Chapter of it, every Verse of it, every word of it, every syllable of it.. every letter of it, is the direct utterance of the Most High!, Not all the Christians think this way about the Bible however., It depends greatly on which Jesus, and what you mean by believe. The underlying basis is, what is the supreme written Word of God, above all others?, I believe in the Jesus of the Gospels (Matthew Mark Luke & John in the Christian Bible.). My problem is with your assumption that just because Paul differs from Gamaliel makes him a radical Shammaite Pharisee. (I dare you to use this in your class), I know a girl made of memories and phrases, lives her whole life in chapters and phases -Jimmy Buffett. I have become all things to all people, that by all means I might save some (1 Corinthians 9:22 ESV).. He was a ruthless persecutor who sought to stop what he saw as an aberration within Judaism. Some of the trials were limited to the high priest and his inner circle, it is likely the entire 70 member Sanhedrin met to dal with Jesus. (Acts 18:18) Reference to Torah (num 6:2-6, 13-18) Paul leave Philippi after Observing Unleavened bread (1 Cor. Long has taught full time at Grace Christian University since 1998, specializing in Bible and Biblical languages. Pauls speech and thought directly lines up with the teachings of Hillel. He uses this in Philippians 3:12-14 to describe the Christian walk. Both, it would seem, are not the case. When and where did they first meet. Gamaliel taught between A.D. 22-55, giving us an approximate early date for Paul's education. Supposition isnt the problem. With respect to Hellenism, Hillel was more open to Hellenism than Shammai and was therefore more open to cooperation with the Romans. A sacred formula believed to embody the divinity invoked and to possess magical power, used in prayer and incantation. Last Update: October 15, 2022. (Paul insisted that all the workers show respect for him by addressing him as Boss Paul.) Paul called the team of painters together and told them: Boys, we need to paint this garage and house. Hmmmm.. Makes sense, but I could not prove this. .b) What about the so-called Great Commission? Jesus calls us to Himself When The Show begins Were infants so He humors us Its Rocky and His Friends https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65t-OzhlmvE. (Mark was intimately connected with Peter since the beginning of the Church, and he acted as scribe for Peter and other Apostles who were illiterate at in their younger years. But that was the requirement Jesus gave to sit on thrones: You are those who have stood by me in my trials. You, speaking to His 11 Apostles who had been walking with Him faithfully for 3 years. [23] The Orthodox church also venerates Gamaliel as a saint, where he is commemorated on August 2, the date when tradition states that his relics were found, along with those of the Apostle and Protomartyr Stephen and Nicodemus. If I did something it MUST be right Dont use the Scripture to shed any light Dont do as I say, do as I do and then you can be a Pharisee too. George Clinton? maybe not. The majority of the rest of the book of Acts and the New Testament tells much about Paul's effective ministry as he served the Lord. Im sorry that Christians cant come to grips in their confirmation bias that both Yeshua and Pauls ministries was infact Judaism. Ibn Taymiyya is the first I know of who said it in writing but obviously it was known as no Hadith mentioned Paul or a 13th Apostle, did name the 12. Gamaliel was himself a Pharisee in the tradition of the great Hillel. Acts presents the evangelizing apostle and church leader Barnabas as a model of integrity and character. Only 3 of these men wrote Scripture in the Bible Matthew, John and Peter. One could envisage that the power of God was already hard wired in the heart some people through faith in his words and by grace in his blood just as Gamaliel proclaimed, A homeowner called his friend, who was a painting contractor. Log in. They make Paul the center, not Jesus. Islam is the truth, Allah Akbar/God is Greatest. When Im at the beach with the hip crowd, I wont take a stand in public. 4:2 Gamaliel forbade husbands from divorcing their wives without their knowledge. I got my Masters Degree at Dallas Theological Seminary. He tells his readers that he is "a Hebrew of Hebrews.". The overwhelming internal evidence of The New Restament and mishnaic sources on the Schools of Shammai and of Hillel support the liklihood of Paul being from the School of Hillel. I would think that he would include that in his self-description as the chief of sinners. Very much the contrary. Thanks for the pointer. Are you the Patricio Abramzon who attended the Evelyn Rubenstein Jewish Community Center in Houston? There were a plethora of Pharisee within the Sanhedrin that agreed with Yeshua and Yeshua himself is a Pharisee(plethora of verses that state this as well). Evangelism is not the most important commandment, and it isnt the entire Second Commandment. Paul, before his conversion, tended to be more like the Shammaites in that he was fairly violent and full of persecution. Perhaps Gamiliels views influenced Pauls personal comments on marriage in 1 Corinthians 7 (Polhill, Paul and his Letters, 30). (Matthew 27:45). .1) Fuhrer. Phillip, thank you. did I miss something? This also convinces me that even though it seems he split from Gamaliel, early on, that did not change him into something completely opposite. Happy Pentecost 2017 All praise be to Jesus. You said that your QUOTE Quran is incorruptible. Thats like many Christians saying the Bible is inerrant. Muhammad is to Muslims as Paul is to most Christians as Mary is to most Catholics an idol that they worship, practically speaking. I wont say Im high on Jesus, and so using a mind-altering drug for recreational purposes is wrong, because Jesus is better. I dont want to be rejected by my peers. The moment Paul stopped persecuting the disciples of Jesus Christ, he stopped fighting against God. The testimony of Jesus is the voice of Jesus, (The Red Letters,) recorded by the 11 faithful witnesses, the True Apostles that Jesus personally appointed and trained for over 3 years. Since Paul clearly gives his yeshiva and his lineage, it shows he wasnt a Christian before and after Damascus. (11). Its called Islam and it is True Religion and the fastest growing religion on earth because people are realizing that Christianity is built on a foundation of lies and the religion of the Nazarenes and Ebionites is preserved in Islam. [erase erase erase]. and I get upset as we read the bible and let someone with their interpretation do interpret for us ,no one can haggle the word of God. To think that all Jewish people were completely unified is to share the same fantasy Christians have about the early church. Matthew built on Marks work, using it as a backbone, and filling out more background details, and references to The Law, The Prophets, and Psalms, etc. And most of all, he wouldnt of been able to defend the Gospel in such a way as if he did not have the correct teaching. !hum !! Is the Word of God a revelation to man? http://www.problemswithpaul.com/Apostle_Paul.html. The followers of Yeshua and Shaul were not called Christians. If Paul began study at the latest age of 16, we can guess a birth year of about 6 at the earliest. The relics of Saint Stephen were translated several months later to . This notion is wrong. If I were a missionary to England, I would certainly want to learn all I could about football, tea, and Doctor Who. The second passage refers to Paul. Clearly youve never taken hebrew or greek in your life. The relics were found on 3 August AD 415. I have said I will ignore you since you are not interested in dialogue. The New Testament was not written nor codified till well after both Yeshua and Shaul were gone. In fact in the book of John Jesus is pointed out as a Pharisee. Then those who finished the garage can go help the others finish the house., One worker objected: But Boss Paul, those were not the owners instructions! Some of its magic, some its tragic, but Ive had a good life along the way. -Jimmy Buffett. Gods commandments are found in the Law of Moses and the Prophets, which Jesus came to FULFILL, (not to abolish, as the false apostle Paul the Pharisee taught.) He fathered Simeon ben Gamliel, who was named for Gamaliel's father, and a daughter, who married a priest named Simon ben Nathanael. Paul was so entrenched in corrupted rabbinics (MAASE HATORAH ) that it clouded the vision of Messiah until Damscucs road. Paul would say his success came from the power of the Gospel and the Holy Spirit. Pharisee ruled that executions created a bloody Sanhedrin and if you had more than one a year, it was considered a bloody Sanhedrin. [Acts 20:31 vs Acts 19:8-10], .4) Paul abandoning the Church in Corinth after a year and a half for no obvious reason, and going off on another long trip, mostly on his own, without appointing anyone else in Corinth as overseer, or giving anyone else any specific authority in the Church in Corinth. I have come to save the day! In fact, Paul describes himself as a ruthless persecutor who sought to stop what he saw as an aberration within Judaism. If you dont ask about Pauls sins, I wont tell about them. For example, Polhill says, The most interesting ruling preserved from Rabban Gamaliel was his insistence that a woman had the right to remarry upon the testimony of a single witness that her husband had died. If anything Paul reacted on his duty to do what he thought was right and purify what was most important to him, the law. There were at least 2 elements of Paul's training. Gamaliel taught between A.D. 22-55, giving us an approximate early date for Paul's education. We cannot work on assumption that Paul was different to what the book of Acts says. Im glad no one disagrees with me. Galatians: Freedom through Gods Grace (Wipf & Stock, 2019). This is exactly what I am talking about, I have regularly posted articles on this blog saying the earliest Christians were Jewish and I often say in classes (and I am sure I have said it someplace here) that the earliest Christian theology (either Jesus or Paul) was quite similar to the Pharisees. because he said so. I will call him a liar . And if I do what I do not want to do, I agree that the law is good. No mention of a cloudy past No hint of condemnation. Nicodemus (John 3:7-8) How many brothers did Jesus have? Gamaliel is reflecting the Hillel tradition of non-violence and allowing God to deal with parties that against the Jews (Polhill, Paul and His Letters, 31). (Two other saint also removed at that timer were St. Philomena and St. Christopher. I. There were plenty of other messianic pretenders besides Jesus, the difference is that some claimed that he was raised form the dead. Both Yeshua and Pauls ministries are simply another sect of Judaism. How long was Paul in Arabia? Philo of Alexandria can be thought of as more moderate to liberal on the Law, his brother completely rejected his Jewish heritage (providing the most extreme position possible). While this is a generalization, many of the rabbinic debates of the first century come down to the opinion of Hillel versus Shammai. Gamaliel (Acts 22:3) Who wrote 1 and 2 Timothy? It is comparing the words of Jesus with the words of Paul (and other men) regarding which one is the Most Important Commandment and which one is the Second commandment, which together fulfill the Law and the Prophets. So youd rather channel Constantine, anti semetic church fathers and bad book from amazon from authors who know absolutely nothing about Judaism or what they are even reading. Sticking with Acts, Gamaliel counsels caution in Acts 5, Rabbi Saul seems to abandon caution by Acts 7. The reason why the Essenes left and went into the desert was because they believed the Pharisee were to lax in their laws and punishment in the Sanhedrin. Hes an Liberal heretic !!! Sages of the time didn't have formal recognition or title. Then, in Acts 22:3, Paul says that he was "brought up in this . People trained by Paul to carry on the work after he left. One of them responded to me QUOTE: In short you believe Paul is the Anti Christ.. Not a new theory Mostly just misunderstanding Pauls writings..He never preached to abolish The Torah thats a misunderstanding https://unashamedofjesus.org/2016/05/31/greatest-commandment/#comment-5642, The other one responded to me QUOTE: When you referred to Jesus words about the greatest commandment, you neglected to mention the context. How long did the Apostle Paul prepare for ministry? Last Weeks Reading: Evangelicals, Water, and the Theology of Paul New Ways Forward, http://readingacts.com/2013/09/09/paul-and-gamaliel/, https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=zGS_V5mEOG4, Romans, Part 57 | The Gospel and the Religious Mind, https://unashamedofjesus.org/2016/05/31/greatest-commandment/#comment-5642, https://wonderfulgraceofjesus.wordpress.com/2017/03/08/the-commandments-of-jesus/#comment-120, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65t-OzhlmvE, Pauls Jewish Heritage (Philippians 3:4-6) | Reading Acts, What Kind of Jew was Paul? The sentence begins with So in the NIV and Amplified Bibles, and Therefore in the NASB and King James Bibles, which ties 7:12 to the previous sentences. There is no greater lie than to lie about God. Not the Jesus of the Koran, written by Muhammad the self-appointed prophet, and not the Jesus of Paul the Pharisee, the self-appointed apostle. etc. And even if Matthias was physically absent at that particular occasion, Jesus is still establishing the basic qualification for having one of the twelve thrones as being you who have followed me, not someone who will follow Jesus in the future, like Paul, James, Luke or anyone else in the world. Probably his training with Gamaliel would have been concluded by the time he was twenty and would have given Paul a very good understanding of Old Testament Scripture. When did Paul study under Gamaliel? Gamaliel. This is a question of fact about the content of the text in the 66 Books of our Bible. There are three things bearing on this subject among the incidental intimations which we have in respect to the early history of Saul, viz. Tobit is a good reference In the Babylonian Talmud, Zevahim 97b and 100b there are statements given in the name of Rabbi Akiva that in the case of an unclaimed body, if no one is attending to it, the responsibility for the buriasl of this corpse falls on this person, who must do it despite any obstacles, regardless if one is a High Priest or Nazirite, neither of whom are allowed to become tamei, ritually impure. The only place in the New Testament that mentions anything like Seven Mountains is Revelation 17, seven hills on which the woman sits. (The Great Prostitute, that is.) Perhaps you can contribute some insight? And 1 as 1. He states that if the apostolic movement is from God then it cannot be stopped, if it is not form God then it cannot succeed. The will of God is plainly revealed, showing all that man is to do, to be, to suffer, and enjoy. Tarsus of Cilicia. Paul was accustomed to learning from his elders as he developed as a Pharisee (Galatians 1:14). I tried to look for the beginning (Acts 1), because a friend Im discipling has asked to go through Acts with me, and this looks like good supplement material. Then the Paulist Establishment church wont persecute me, but the other Jesus People will know that Im still keeping the faith and not inhaling., What I really need is a short catchy slogan to let my fellow hippies know what is expected of them in the Establishment Church now in 1973, regarding the issue of Paul the Pharisees sins. The Apostle Paul met him during his second missionary journey and he became Paul's companion and missionary partner along with Silas. Silence since March now its June. Gamaliel established a number of lenient ordinances, in particular . While Paul was studying under Gamaliel he was exposed to Hellenism, including the gymnasium. 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